(Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller


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Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality review ´ eBook or Kindle ePUB Librarian's note See alternate cover edition of ISBN 0785263705 hereI never liked jazz music because jazz music doesn't resolve I used to not like God because God didn't resolve But that was before any of this happened ―Donald MillerIn Donald Miller's early years he was vaguely familiar with a distant God But wh. Originally this got three stars now it has one The I think about this book the I realize that it is nearly as noxious as most evangelical attempts at converting someone What makes Miller really any different from the whorish looking teenage girls mentioned further down Whorish teenage girls probably wouldn t do much to convince me I should be a Christian but in the right frame of mind where I excise parts of my brain and forget to be critical his descriptions of loneliness feeling like the whole world is an inauthentic rotting pile of shit and feeling anchorless and rudderless in life I could conceivably fall for the message of this book This book is deceptive and I m not sure if it is intentional or not but it still is deceptive Below I start the review with a story about two born again Christians one who I don t talk much about This one was of the annoying breed of BA Christians and he used an argument favored by practitioners of deception all over the world the one where appeals are made to similarity between himself and the target That was a shit sentence What I mean is he would make arguments like this Man I get that you don t like God I was just like you I was studying Environmental Science and enjoying college smoking lots of pot just like you I believed in Darwin but then Jesus came to me and I realized Satan put fossils in the ground to deceive us how I wish I was making this up this is really something he said What this guy and Miller are doing is trying to make me relate to them and then see that I need to take the same path they did because if they couldn t find a way out of their problems emotional or intellectual then how could I who am just like them I thought of Miller as the non obtrusive Christian but I think he really is just a subtle version of his friend The non obtrusive Christian I think just really liked that religious people were paying him to skateboard I remember one of the times we were talking to him he brought up evolution and Darwin and started asking uestions about what he had read in a book on Creationism and what Darwin really said about certain things I didn t know much about Darwin or Evolution so I couldn t really answer him except with what I felt was true I think he was genuinely interested in finding out if what he was being taught was true or if it was bullshit Deep down I don t think Miller really cares if what he believes is bullshit he s just searching for things to prop up his belief structureOn Easter evening in 1999 my friend Mike I m so tempted to call him Mike the Goth or fill him with some hyperbolic characteristics that would make him sound cooler than any person could really be but I won t succumb to Miller s influence were hanging out at an almost empty coffee shop in town when two guys about our age approached us At the time I was finely attuned to when someone was making an approach to hawk Jesus in upstate New York it happened fairly often on this a little later in New York City it doesn t happen in the same way Now this skill set can pick out someone making an approach asking for spare change I don t know what Mike was wearing probably something all black or black with military pants I know that I was wearing my Amebix t shirt that had a guy crucified on the front and No Gods No Masters on the back I wore it because I was a shit who liked to passively get a rise out of people and it was Easter or Zombie Day as I had wittingly started calling the earlier in the day when Mike and I were heading to a store meeting at Kinko s So anyway there we were and these two guys approach us and the one starts talking to us making small talk and I go into shutdown mode knowing what is coming Mike keeps answering the guys uestions The other guy who isn t doing much of the talking looks like he is about to explode with excitement he just wants to say something and after a minute or two he just blurts out Hey what do you think of Jesus I say nothing Mike starts blurting out Crass lyrics like I am no feeble Christ not me he hangs in glib delight and Jesus died for his own sins not mine Mike seems to be enjoying himself the Christians seem to be enjoying themselves in some perverse way and I m really fucking embarrassed I will them away but my powers of mind control are absent because by some occult means they end up taking a seat at our table We talk to them for the next hour Well Mike talks to them I sometimes give one word answers to a uestion if I m asked directly but I just stare at my coffee cup and listen To make a boring story shorter they all talked and they tried to get us to sign up for the eternal Jesus plan of salvation insurance Mike had some fun with them and every few minutes they would all start kind of talking like normal people until usually the excitable one would once again shot back with some kind of Jesus thing A week or so later maybe but not much Mike and I were back at the same coffee shop where we were everyday at some point and the guy who didn t talk about Jesus uite so much in the conversation showed up and asked if he could join us We all talked I was a little involved in the conversation and the Jesus guy sorry I don t remember his name turned out to be a pretty decent guy and didn t really talk about Jesus at all A couple of times the decent Jesus guy showed up and asked to join us and then sat and talked with us for an hour or so I didn t mind if he showed up he was actually a fairly interesting guy and he was a Christian but kind of in the same way that I was a vegetarian at the time I really cared about not eating or wearing animals and if asked I d talk about why I felt that way but I never felt the need to ask someone eating a hamburger if they knew they were eating a cow I d like it if everyone stopped eating meat but I wasn t going to preach to someone they would do what they liked He was kind of the same way he never pushed Jesus on us in these conversations Instead we found out that he was part of this group called Word of Life which is a Christian all year camp school for kids to be trained to be evangelical missionaries The group itself I hold in very low regard but this particular guy was just a normal individual without a pathological need to share and convert he may have gotten that part erased from himself over time He lived at this place and part of each day he studied the bible and was trained to go out and spread the word of Jesus and the other half of the day he skateboarded Seriously he skateboarded and worked on getting better at this Bible boot camp in order to infiltrate the skateboarding youth culture that hadn t been to receptive to the good word so far I kind of think of Donald Miller as this guyAs an aside one of the other battle tactics of the Word of Life was to bring young girls to Saratoga Springs on a Friday or Saturday Evening in nice weather and unleash them from their vans on Broadway Lots of people are out on the main drag of town in nice weather and Saratoga is a kind of artsy town and one of the only towns with a vibrant downtown that people come to so these girls would be unleashed on the streets to convert people to Christ On a particular Friday evening I was sitting on a planter in front of a coffee shop that had recently banned me from their premises reading the brand new collection of short stories by David Foster Wallace Brief Interviews with Hideous Men when the live action show I ll call Brief Encounters with Hideous Nubile Girls started I saw the small army of young girls probably around 15 to 18 years old unloaded out of the van and disperse to conuer the hordes of heathens out of the street All of the girls were wearing very revealing or slutty clothing and their approach was to go up to men and start flirting with them before changing to conversation around to Jesus It was one of the most surreal things I saw not legal girls flirting with guys in their late twenties and older and then trying to convert them Jailbait for Jesus I don t know if they won any conversions but they had no trouble getting guys to keep talking to them Forgive me Jesus I have sinned once again in a really long and rambling tangential personal story in what should be a book review I wanted to hate Donald Miller I didn t though I think that he is terribly misguided and unconsciously or unintentionally dishonest but I think he s probably got his heart in the right place Of course I ll say that because he s pretty much the same person I am but where I have wrestled with dis belief in all things for most of my life he wrestles with belief We are both reclusive self obsessed and overly self conscious We both have a similar sense of moral outrage at the world and seem distrustful of institutions and even ones that basically profess what we believe He s a Christian who finds churches stifling and judgmental I ve been at separate and overlapping times a punk an anarchist a philosophy student and a vegetarian who for the most part has been unable to bear being in the company of others who shared my level of interest or commitment He would leave church early just so he didn t have to talk to people afterwards I d bring pre calculus homework to punk shows my band played in and then sat off to the side doing that once my band had played just so I didn t have to deal with the people I relate to him as a person and there is something likable about him in the book He s probably a much likable person than I amIn the comments to Ben s review of this book I said I couldn t wait to rip Miller a new asshole in my review I m not going to do that the book didn t turn out to be nearly as awful as I wanted it to be But I was ready for it to be and the first chapter nearly did me in with his description of having his first real interaction with God I uote it below My slot machine God disintegrated on Christmas Eve when I was thirteen I still think of that night as the lifting of the haze and it remains one of the few times I can categorically claim an interaction with God Though I am half certain these interactions are routine they simply don t feel as metaphysical as the happenings of that night It was very simple but it was one of those profound revelations that only God can induce What happened was that I realized I was not alone in my surroundings I m not talking about ghosts or angels or anything I m talking about other people As silly as it sounds I realized late that night that other people had feelings and fears and that my interactions with them actually meant something that I could make them happy or sad in the way that I associated with them Not only could I make them happy or sad but I was responsible for the way I interacted with them I suddenly felt very responsible I was supposed to make them happy I was not supposed to make them sad Like I said it sounds simple but when you really get it for the first time it hits hardI was shell shockedThis is how the bomb fell For my mother that year I had purchased a shabby Christmas gift a book the contents of which she would never be interested in I had had a sum of money with which to buy presents and the majority of it I used to buy fishing euipment as Roy and I had started fishing in the creek behind Wal Mart some stuff about opening gifts So in the moonlight I drifted in and out of anxious sleep and this is when it occured to me that the gift I had purchased for my other was bought with the petty change left after I had pleased myself I realized I had set the happiness of my mother beyond my own material desiresThis was a different sort of guilt from anything I had previously experienced It was a heavy guilt not the sort of guilt I could do anything about It was a haunting feeling the sort of sensation you get when you wonder whether you are two people the other of which does things you can t explain bad and terrible thingsThe guilt was so heavy that I fell out of bed onto my knees and begged not a slot machine God but a living feeling God to stop the pain I crawled out of my room and into the hallway by my mother s door and lay on my elbows and face for an hour or so going sometimes into sleep before finally the burden lifted and I was able to return to my roomOne this is called becoming an adult in your awareness to other people as opposed to a child who has difficulty in cognitively having mature interpersonal thoughts but good for you to think about others there are lots of people who may never mature enough to realize that what they do or don t do can effect other people I don t want to belittle anyone s experience but doing a shitty thing and then feeling guilty about it doesn t need a God in the sky to make that happen I also think that if I was in the midst of being that close to the omnipotent creator of the whole fucking universe or feeling so terrible I wouldn t be falling in and out of sleep but then again at thirteen I couldn t sleep on my back because once I lay on my back I d think that this was the position I would be put in a coffin when I died and the final position I d ever be in and that would make me feel claustrophobic as if I was really in a coffin and then I d realize I was going to die and I d start calculating how much of my life I d already lived this would later become calculations on how much of my life I d wasted so far and then I d think about everyone else I knew and loved dying and I d keep thinking about this until I stopped laying on my back and distracted myself with other thoughts Forgive me again Father for I have once again sinned in transgressing the bounds of book reporting Miller also says things in the book that sound all emo and kind of poetic and cool but which are just wrong And this would be fine if this was poetry but he s using these wrong facts to justify believing in God and for God s existence in an indirect way Here are the two that really jumped out at me My belief in Jesus did not seem rational or scientific and yet there was nothing I could do to separate myself from this belief I think Laura was looking for something rational because she believed that all things that were true were rational But that isn t the case Love for examaple is a true emotion but it is not rational What I mean is people actually feel it I have been in love plenty of people have been in love yet love cannot be proved scientifically Neither can beauty Light cannot be proved scientifically and yet we all believe in light and by light see all thingsLight is a scientific concept what light is how we see even types of light that we don t have the capabilities to see with our naked eyes It sounds romantic to say that light isn t understood a mystery and that as a result it s like God but this doesn t hold any water We hear a little on this general theme in a second argument with a false premise just two pages later In this book Orthodoxy G K Chesterton says chess players to crazy not poets I think he is right You d go crazy trying to explain penguins It s best just to watch them and be entertained I don t think you can explain how Christian faith works either It is a mystery And I love this about Christian spirituality It cannot be explained and yet it is beautiful and trueI m pretty sure penguins don t exist for our entertainment and as for the further claims of it being a complete mystery that one would go crazy trying to unravel there are people who do study penguins and have a fairly good understanding of why they do what they do the penguins being talked about here are the mating habits of penguins you know like in March of the Penguins which is mysterious and beautiful but not as something utterly unknowable My real issue with this uote is the Chesterton uote and using what is a bullshit statement to make hyper logical rational thinking seem as a malady of which the poetic mind is immune to I don t know much about the history of chess but I know that every grandmaster didn t go insane You have Bobby Fisher s but you also have Gary Kasparov who I ve never heard is insane even though he is probably one of the greatest living chess players in the world On the poetry side I ll just say Arthur Rimbaud Robert Lowell Antoin Artaud Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath and that is just right off the top of my head I have about ten of these types of examples marked by little pieces of ripped paper in my copy of the book But I think I ve made my point and no need to brow beat the poetic licenses Miller s emo ey confessional prose takes a style I am a sucker for when it s done good and hate when it s done poorly Miller falls in the middle he never makes me fall in love with his world like a great writer of this style would do but he also doesn t make me want to throttle him with his own book I wonder if Miller ever read Cometbus and if Cometbus influenced him Aaron Combetbus is a good example of this kind of personal prose that can work beautifully although Cometbus won t make you want to believe in God it might make you want to go live in suats travel the country drink too much coffee read too many books smoke too many cigarettes and fall in love with smart beautiful and damaged girls that can only end badly But I ll share one little uirk of Millers and then call it a night for this review His belief that Buddhists all rub the belly of Buddha statues and make wishes on them and uses this as a way of showing how misguided people can be This is just silly untrue and even if it was true not any silly and absurd as believing that a by praying to God he makes checks wind up at your apartment on the day rent is due pg 188 b that by giving God his tithe of 10% of what you earn he makes it so that you end up making money as if he is some kind of mutual fund pg 197 or c the whole cracker and Christ thing pg 237 I probably have so much to say but I ll leave this review by saying that I found Miller much likable than I expected and I imagine if I met him he d be a nice guy to talk to Him and I just from different sides who both happen to know that the other side is wrong Oh and he seems to have come around to jazz and I pretty much can t stand it Six of the Best Spanking Stories Volume 2 resolve I used to not like God because God didn't Redemption resolve But that was before any of this happened ―Donald MillerIn Donald Miller's early years he was vaguely familiar with a distant God But wh. Originally this got three stars now it has one The I think about this book the I Extreme Devotion realize that it is nearly as noxious as most evangelical attempts at converting someone What makes Miller Voluntary Death in Japan really any different from the whorish looking teenage girls mentioned further down Whorish teenage girls probably wouldn t do much to convince me I should be a Christian but in the Acid Sky Clare Foster #1 right frame of mind where I excise parts of my brain and forget to be critical his descriptions of loneliness feeling like the whole world is an inauthentic Reading Girls rotting pile of shit and feeling anchorless and Preuel to Magic Shifts Curran POV #10 rudderless in life I could conceivably fall for the message of this book This book is deceptive and I m not sure if it is intentional or not but it still is deceptive Below I start the Tuf Voyaging review with a story about two born again Christians one who I don t talk much about This one was of the annoying breed of BA Christians and he used an argument favored by practitioners of deception all over the world the one where appeals are made to similarity between himself and the target That was a shit sentence What I mean is he would make arguments like this Man I get that you don t like God I was just like you I was studying Environmental Science and enjoying college smoking lots of pot just like you I believed in Darwin but then Jesus came to me and I A field guide to the birds of Galapagos A Taplinger worldwide field guide realized Satan put fossils in the ground to deceive us how I wish I was making this up this is The Ghost of Buxton Manor really something he said What this guy and Miller are doing is trying to make me Derailed relate to them and then see that I need to take the same path they did because if they couldn t find a way out of their problems emotional or intellectual then how could I who am just like them I thought of Miller as the non obtrusive Christian but I think he Dirty Harry #9 The Killing Connection really is just a subtle version of his friend The non obtrusive Christian I think just Dirty Harry #5 Family Skeletons really liked that Willow De Beers #1 religious people were paying him to skateboard I All That Glitters Landry #3 remember one of the times we were talking to him he brought up evolution and Darwin and started asking uestions about what he had Encyclopedia of World History Primary Documents Master Index Volume 7 read in a book on Creationism and what Darwin abala Trilogy really said about certain things I didn t know much about Darwin or Evolution so I couldn t A View from the Eagle’s Nest really answer him except with what I felt was true I think he was genuinely interested in finding out if what he was being taught was true or if it was bullshit Deep down I don t think Miller Two for the Show really cares if what he believes is bullshit he s just searching for things to prop up his belief structureOn Easter evening in 1999 my friend Mike I m so tempted to call him Mike the Goth or fill him with some hyperbolic characteristics that would make him sound cooler than any person could The Emerald Peacock really be but I won t succumb to Miller s influence were hanging out at an almost empty coffee shop in town when two guys about our age approached us At the time I was finely attuned to when someone was making an approach to hawk Jesus in upstate New York it happened fairly often on this a little later in New York City it doesn t happen in the same way Now this skill set can pick out someone making an approach asking for spare change I don t know what Mike was wearing probably something all black or black with military pants I know that I was wearing my Amebix t shirt that had a guy crucified on the front and No Gods No Masters on the back I wore it because I was a shit who liked to passively get a Anatomy of a Murder rise out of people and it was Easter or Zombie Day as I had wittingly started calling the earlier in the day when Mike and I were heading to a store meeting at Kinko s So anyway there we were and these two guys approach us and the one starts talking to us making small talk and I go into shutdown mode knowing what is coming Mike keeps answering the guys uestions The other guy who isn t doing much of the talking looks like he is about to explode with excitement he just wants to say something and after a minute or two he just blurts out Hey what do you think of Jesus I say nothing Mike starts blurting out Crass lyrics like I am no feeble Christ not me he hangs in glib delight and Jesus died for his own sins not mine Mike seems to be enjoying himself the Christians seem to be enjoying themselves in some perverse way and I m How Can You Say We Are Not Related really fucking embarrassed I will them away but my powers of mind control are absent because by some occult means they end up taking a seat at our table We talk to them for the next hour Well Mike talks to them I sometimes give one word answers to a uestion if I m asked directly but I just stare at my coffee cup and listen To make a boring story shorter they all talked and they tried to get us to sign up for the eternal Jesus plan of salvation insurance Mike had some fun with them and every few minutes they would all start kind of talking like normal people until usually the excitable one would once again shot back with some kind of Jesus thing A week or so later maybe but not much Mike and I were back at the same coffee shop where we were everyday at some point and the guy who didn t talk about Jesus uite so much in the conversation showed up and asked if he could join us We all talked I was a little involved in the conversation and the Jesus guy sorry I don t Building Dynamic Web Sites with Macromedia Studio MX 2004 VOICES remember his name turned out to be a pretty decent guy and didn t Where Does the Brown Bear Go? really talk about Jesus at all A couple of times the decent Jesus guy showed up and asked to join us and then sat and talked with us for an hour or so I didn t mind if he showed up he was actually a fairly interesting guy and he was a Christian but kind of in the same way that I was a vegetarian at the time I Hot Target Femme Metal #2 really cared about not eating or wearing animals and if asked I d talk about why I felt that way but I never felt the need to ask someone eating a hamburger if they knew they were eating a cow I d like it if everyone stopped eating meat but I wasn t going to preach to someone they would do what they liked He was kind of the same way he never pushed Jesus on us in these conversations Instead we found out that he was part of this group called Word of Life which is a Christian all year camp school for kids to be trained to be evangelical missionaries The group itself I hold in very low Untitled Shades of Grey #2 regard but this particular guy was just a normal individual without a pathological need to share and convert he may have gotten that part erased from himself over time He lived at this place and part of each day he studied the bible and was trained to go out and spread the word of Jesus and the other half of the day he skateboarded Seriously he skateboarded and worked on getting better at this Bible boot camp in order to infiltrate the skateboarding youth culture that hadn t been to All That Drag receptive to the good word so far I kind of think of Donald Miller as this guyAs an aside one of the other battle tactics of the Word of Life was to bring young girls to Saratoga Springs on a Friday or Saturday Evening in nice weather and unleash them from their vans on Broadway Lots of people are out on the main drag of town in nice weather and Saratoga is a kind of artsy town and one of the only towns with a vibrant downtown that people come to so these girls would be unleashed on the streets to convert people to Christ On a particular Friday evening I was sitting on a planter in front of a coffee shop that had LandBook recently banned me from their premises The Practice of Computing Using Python reading the brand new collection of short stories by David Foster Wallace Brief Interviews with Hideous Men when the live action show I ll call Brief Encounters with Hideous Nubile Girls started I saw the small army of young girls probably around 15 to 18 years old unloaded out of the van and disperse to conuer the hordes of heathens out of the street All of the girls were wearing very Developing Management Skills revealing or slutty clothing and their approach was to go up to men and start flirting with them before changing to conversation around to Jesus It was one of the most surreal things I saw not legal girls flirting with guys in their late twenties and older and then trying to convert them Jailbait for Jesus I don t know if they won any conversions but they had no trouble getting guys to keep talking to them Forgive me Jesus I have sinned once again in a I Promise to Hate Despise and Abuse You until Death Do Us Part really long and Vlad rambling tangential personal story in what should be a book House of Deadly Calm review I wanted to hate Donald Miller I didn t though I think that he is terribly misguided and unconsciously or unintentionally dishonest but I think he s probably got his heart in the Essentials of Entrepreneurship and Small Business Management right place Of course I ll say that because he s pretty much the same person I am but where I have wrestled with dis belief in all things for most of my life he wrestles with belief We are both The Bouncer reclusive self obsessed and overly self conscious We both have a similar sense of moral outrage at the world and seem distrustful of institutions and even ones that basically profess what we believe He s a Christian who finds churches stifling and judgmental I ve been at separate and overlapping times a punk an anarchist a philosophy student and a vegetarian who for the most part has been unable to bear being in the company of others who shared my level of interest or commitment He would leave church early just so he didn t have to talk to people afterwards I d bring pre calculus homework to punk shows my band played in and then sat off to the side doing that once my band had played just so I didn t have to deal with the people I Dragons of Summer Tide relate to him as a person and there is something likable about him in the book He s probably a much likable person than I amIn the comments to Ben s Ikke gi opp håpet Werner review of this book I said I couldn t wait to Luna fortuna rip Miller a new asshole in my The Complete Bread Machine Book review I m not going to do that the book didn t turn out to be nearly as awful as I wanted it to be But I was AAA Identity Management Security ready for it to be and the first chapter nearly did me in with his description of having his first Forbidden Planet real interaction with God I uote it below My slot machine God disintegrated on Christmas Eve when I was thirteen I still think of that night as the lifting of the haze and it Kids These Days remains one of the few times I can categorically claim an interaction with God Though I am half certain these interactions are train whistle routine they simply don t feel as metaphysical as the happenings of that night It was very simple but it was one of those profound Surge Wheezers #1 revelations that only God can induce What happened was that I Administrer Microsoft Exchange Server 2016: Concepts et 47 Travaux Pratiques realized I was not alone in my surroundings I m not talking about ghosts or angels or anything I m talking about other people As silly as it sounds I Only In The World of Dragons realized late that night that other people had feelings and fears and that my interactions with them actually meant something that I could make them happy or sad in the way that I associated with them Not only could I make them happy or sad but I was Tramp Stamp Club responsible for the way I interacted with them I suddenly felt very Debrief A Complete History of Us Aerial Engagements 1981 to the Present responsible I was supposed to make them happy I was not supposed to make them sad Like I said it sounds simple but when you 間の楔 Ⅵ 衝動の引き金 really get it for the first time it hits hardI was shell shockedThis is how the bomb fell For my mother that year I had purchased a shabby Christmas gift a book the contents of which she would never be interested in I had had a sum of money with which to buy presents and the majority of it I used to buy fishing euipment as Roy and I had started fishing in the creek behind Wal Mart some stuff about opening gifts So in the moonlight I drifted in and out of anxious sleep and this is when it occured to me that the gift I had purchased for my other was bought with the petty change left after I had pleased myself I Dark Age realized I had set the happiness of my mother beyond my own material desiresThis was a different sort of guilt from anything I had previously experienced It was a heavy guilt not the sort of guilt I could do anything about It was a haunting feeling the sort of sensation you get when you wonder whether you are two people the other of which does things you can t explain bad and terrible thingsThe guilt was so heavy that I fell out of bed onto my knees and begged not a slot machine God but a living feeling God to stop the pain I crawled out of my Pilules bleues room and into the hallway by my mother s door and lay on my elbows and face for an hour or so going sometimes into sleep before finally the burden lifted and I was able to Downright Delinuents return to my Light Gesture and Color roomOne this is called becoming an adult in your awareness to other people as opposed to a child who has difficulty in cognitively having mature interpersonal thoughts but good for you to think about others there are lots of people who may never mature enough to Meet Me Halfway realize that what they do or don t do can effect other people I don t want to belittle anyone s experience but doing a shitty thing and then feeling guilty about it doesn t need a God in the sky to make that happen I also think that if I was in the midst of being that close to the omnipotent creator of the whole fucking universe or feeling so terrible I wouldn t be falling in and out of sleep but then again at thirteen I couldn t sleep on my back because once I lay on my back I d think that this was the position I would be put in a coffin when I died and the final position I d ever be in and that would make me feel claustrophobic as if I was Ribus 7 really in a coffin and then I d Beloved realize I was going to die and I d start calculating how much of my life I d already lived this would later become calculations on how much of my life I d wasted so far and then I d think about everyone else I knew and loved dying and I d keep thinking about this until I stopped laying on my back and distracted myself with other thoughts Forgive me again Father for I have once again sinned in transgressing the bounds of book For the Love of Brian and Pete reporting Miller also says things in the book that sound all emo and kind of poetic and cool but which are just wrong And this would be fine if this was poetry but he s using these wrong facts to justify believing in God and for God s existence in an indirect way Here are the two that Coaltown Jesus really jumped out at me My belief in Jesus did not seem This Movie Will Reuire Dinosaurs rational or scientific and yet there was nothing I could do to separate myself from this belief I think Laura was looking for something Shrimp of the House rational because she believed that all things that were true were Family Pets rational But that isn t the case Love for examaple is a true emotion but it is not Humortivacion rational What I mean is people actually feel it I have been in love plenty of people have been in love yet love cannot be proved scientifically Neither can beauty Light cannot be proved scientifically and yet we all believe in light and by light see all thingsLight is a scientific concept what light is how we see even types of light that we don t have the capabilities to see with our naked eyes It sounds One Wicked Winter romantic to say that light isn t understood a mystery and that as a Stamford 76 result it s like God but this doesn t hold any water We hear a little on this general theme in a second argument with a false premise just two pages later In this book Orthodoxy G K Chesterton says chess players to crazy not poets I think he is The Counterfeit Secretary right You d go crazy trying to explain penguins It s best just to watch them and be entertained I don t think you can explain how Christian faith works either It is a mystery And I love this about Christian spirituality It cannot be explained and yet it is beautiful and trueI m pretty sure penguins don t exist for our entertainment and as for the further claims of it being a complete mystery that one would go crazy trying to unravel there are people who do study penguins and have a fairly good understanding of why they do what they do the penguins being talked about here are the mating habits of penguins you know like in March of the Penguins which is mysterious and beautiful but not as something utterly unknowable My Citizens of Mars The Young Astronauts No 6 real issue with this uote is the Chesterton uote and using what is a bullshit statement to make hyper logical Little Donnies Mother rational thinking seem as a malady of which the poetic mind is immune to I don t know much about the history of chess but I know that every grandmaster didn t go insane You have Bobby Fisher s but you also have Gary Kasparov who I ve never heard is insane even though he is probably one of the greatest living chess players in the world On the poetry side I ll just say Arthur Rimbaud Robert Lowell Antoin Artaud Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath and that is just آیدا درخت و خنجر و خاطره right off the top of my head I have about ten of these types of examples marked by little pieces of Numbers prediction and war Using history to evaluate combat factors and predict the outcome of battles read Cometbus and if Cometbus influenced him Aaron Combetbus is a good example of this kind of personal prose that can work beautifully although Cometbus won t make you want to believe in God it might make you want to go live in suats travel the country drink too much coffee Blowjob from Your Stalker read too many books smoke too many cigarettes and fall in love with smart beautiful and damaged girls that can only end badly But I ll share one little uirk of Millers and then call it a night for this Ice review His belief that Buddhists all Afterworlds rub the belly of Buddha statues and make wishes on them and uses this as a way of showing how misguided people can be This is just silly untrue and even if it was true not any silly and absurd as believing that a by praying to God he makes checks wind up at your apartment on the day The Escape Room rent is due pg 188 b that by giving God his tithe of 10% of what you earn he makes it so that you end up making money as if he is some kind of mutual fund pg 197 or c the whole cracker and Christ thing pg 237 I probably have so much to say but I ll leave this חורף קיץ review by saying that I found Miller much likable than I expected and I imagine if I met him he d be a nice guy to talk to Him and I just from different sides who both happen to know that the other side is wrong Oh and he seems to have come around to jazz and I pretty much can t stand it

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Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality review ´ eBook or Kindle ePUB En he came to know Jesus Christ he pursued the Christian life with great zeal Within a few years he had a successful ministry that ultimately left him feeling empty burned out and once again far away from God In this intimate soul searching account Miller describes his remarkable journey back to a culturally relev. I finished this book a few days ago and I just can t stop thinking about it It s not a perfect book by any means but it was perfect for me at this moment in my life I m only bummed I waited so long to finally get around to reading it

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Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality review ´ eBook or Kindle ePUB Ant infinitely loving GodFor anyone wondering if the Christian faith is still relevant in a postmodern cultureFor anyone thirsting for a genuine encounter with a God who is realFor anyone yearning for a renewed sense of passion in  life Blue Like Jazz is a fresh and original perspective on life love and redemptio. Great book I really like Miller as an author I loved the scene at the Reed College baccanal where Miller and his Christian friends offered the reverse confessional brilliant Even for the non religious this book may restore a little faith in humanityIf you find that your faith is somewhat unconventional this may be a good book for you


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    read Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller read & download É eBook or Kindle ePUB Ý Donald Miller I thought of several different ways in which to begin this review several witty comparisons that would surely catch the reader's attention But that was a month and a half ago See I started reading Blue Like Jazz on the 20th of July and it is now the 4th of October I have four pages left and I'm not sure I have the strength to contin

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    (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller I wish that reviewers on this site would review books for what they are meant to be and not insist that they be something else Blue Like Jazz is not meant to be a deep theological treatise If you thought it was supposed to be then of course it doesn't compare to Augustine or CS Lewis Miller's book is instead meant as a memoir of one man's w

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    read Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality Donald Miller Ý 3 read (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller I finished this book a few days ago and I just can't stop thinking about it It's not a perfect book by any means but it was perfect for me at this moment in my life I'm only bummed I waited so long to finally get around to reading it

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    read & download É eBook or Kindle ePUB Ý Donald Miller (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller This book was recommended to me by MyFleshSingsOut who is a very religious goodreads friend He is a Jerry Falwell loving hardcore right wing conservative He believes the entire old testament word for word none of it is alleg

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    (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller read & download É eBook or Kindle ePUB Ý Donald Miller Donald Miller Ý 3 read The problem with Miller Bell and this whole Gen Xemerging churchpostmodern church movement is that they want to be so much smarter than they are Truthfully this book is spiritually shallow and leaves me thinking yeah but so what? I have already wrestled with a lot of the issues raised by Donald Miller and found myself wanting him to say I believe I finally put my finger on the issue Jesus told the Samaritan wo

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    (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller read Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality Great book I really like Miller as an author I loved the scene at the Reed College baccanal where Miller and his Christian friends offered the reverse confessional brilliant Even for the non religious this book may restore a little faith in humanityIf you find that your faith is somewhat unconventional this may be a good book for you

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    (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller Instead of critiuing perhaps let me just share a few of what I found to be some of the most powerful powerful because they are written so simply and so simple in their truth lines that provide a glimpse of Miller's style the beauty

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    (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller My nonreligious thoughts on this bookDonald Miller's Most Freuently Discussed Topics1 The danger of being self absorbed 2 Himself H

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    read Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality (Blue Like Jazz Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality) [E–book] Ç Donald Miller Donald Miller Ý 3 read This is my favorite book in the world my own personal bible It's not very long and offers a lot of insight onto many different topics in life college relationshipsetc My whole book is highlighted in amazing uotes and I try to get all my friends to write in my copy as well It's so great because Donald Miller explores the idea of fiding Christianity and himself in a crazy world of skeptics and hypocrits But most

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